Thursday, March 20, 2008

Remembering Nietzsche

Yesterday, in a student essay, I read this quote, attributed to Friedrich Nietzsche “The most common lie is that which one lies to himself; lying to others is relatively an exception.”

And I smiled.

Remember discovering Nietzsche? Remember endlessly quoting Nietzsche? Remember being unabashedly smart and twenty-something and certain that all of the grown-ups were too concerned about the wrong things. Remember quoting Nietzsche to [or about] your parents?

These memories are such fond ones for me. I loved my twenty-something self. My friends and I gobbled up philosphy and literature, the more snotty and inaccessible, the better. We drank cheap red wine or cheaper draft beer from the taps whose hoses we were certain were coated with mold. We swore we could taste it. Our favorite club had fuzzy wallpaper and too-little ventilation. Even the non-smokers were red-eyed by the end of the night, which was at about 3 a.m. most weekends. Nietzsche was an important part of this scene; he even worked his way into our poetry, often written on bar napkins.

There are so many great Nietzsche quotes like “Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule,” and “Fear is the mother of morality,” and “People who have given us their complete confidence believe that they have a right to ours. The inference is false, a gift confers no rights.”

So I smiled when I read the Nietzsche quote in Mike’s paper. “Right on time,” I thought, and I penned “love it” in the margin. And I do love it…”The most common lie is that which one lies to himself; lying to others is relatively an exception. ” It’s a great quote, and I’m glad Mike discovered it.
 
I’m sure he was, as I was, led to Nietzsche by a super-cool friend, a boy who wears too much black, whose hair is too long or who has too many piercings.

That boy was in my classroom a few years ago, quoting both Nietzsche and Jung and peppering his paper with references to the Superman and the Shadow Self that only I understood. He liked it that way. He liked to feel that he was, as Jane Austen would say, “a cut above the company” in the freshman comp classroom. Mike has this air about him too, as I sure did I back in my Nietzsche-quoting days.

But, I later discovered, Nietzsche was also a bit of a dick. He was terribly brutal in his thoughts about women. He said things like, “Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent,” and “Behind all their personal vanity, women themselves always have an impersonal contempt for woman,” and “For the woman, the man is a means: the end is always the child.”

He was also somewhat xenophobic: “‘Evil men have no songs.’ How is it that the Russians have songs?” and “An artist has no home in Europe except in Paris .”

And clearly anti-religion: “After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my hands.” and “God is a thought who makes crooked all that is straight,” and “In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point.”

As I continued to read Mike’s paper, which contained the appropriate amount of 20-year-old philosophizing about what it means to lie and what really constitutes a lie, and what Neitzsche meant, I was brought back to my own 20-year-old brain. And I know that an equally patient freshman comp teacher penned some encouraging comment over my own presumed-brilliant integration of Nietzche into my essay. I strove to impress with my deep thoughts and high brow allusions, and she was probably already well versed enough in Neitzsche to know of his dickishness.

I wonder if she smiled.

Posted by Lucy at 00:43:02
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10 Responses to “Remembering Nietzsche”

  1. I like “A good writer possesses not only his own spirit but also the spirit of his friends.”

  2. BG says:

    Hey Lucy,

    Blue Kid (who just turned 16 yesterday) is totally into philosophy right now. I’ll have to bring up Neitzsche and see if he knows about him yet.

    A few weeks back, my husband took BK to Barnes & Noble and he came home with two philosophy books. That evening, BK was in his room reading his new books with classical music blaring and incense burning. My husband yelled at him to put the incense out. He can’t stand the smell. And, really, it *does* stink up the place. But, I told The Skimmer to leave BK alone. He’s *discovering* so many things right now and is getting so deep about it. Like he’s the first one to have thought of and discovered these ideas — and that The Skimmer should stop trying to harsh his George Harrison mellow.

    It’s great watching my kid being in this phase. I love it!

    Great post, Lucy!

  3. crse says:

    Ahhh fred nitzky. Yeah….i think i might have been the female version of the boy who wore too much black and had the crazy hair…wait…i think i still am that boy! Thanks for bringing me back sweetie!

  4. Lucy says:

    Tyler–That’s one of my favorites too.
    BG–Isn’t great watching young people discover all of these great minds. I also love that they get so excited, as if they’ve found a cool new secret. I always make sure to encourage these things in my students’ writing (even when I know they’re misinterpreting).
    Crse–No. The boy with too much black and the crazy hair, in my experience, was kind of predatorial–think John Bender (Breakfast Club) with a couple of more years of anger. You weren’t him; you were much, much cooler.

  5. BG says:

    Hey Lucy,

    Wanted to let you know…I was shopping for stuff for Blue Kid’s Easter basket on Sat and I remembered your post. I went to the bookstore and got him a Salvatore Dali book and then went on the hunt for an “easy” Nietzche book for him.

    Later than night, I was putting the basket together and then remembered…

    “God is dead.”

    lol.

    Needless to say, I didn’t put it in his basket for fear of *very weird* karma! lol.

    Yes! It is *so awesome* to watch kids grow. Physically, it’s a very wild thing — but, intellectually? It’s the coolest thing there is. I just love it.

    And thanks for encouraging that in your students. They are very lucky to have you.

  6. BG says:

    Salvador DalĂ­…

    I knew what I typed above didn’t look right. You must forgive me. My fingers fly on a keyboard — way faster than my mind can think.

    Is there a class I can take to improve that? lol.

    I think the brain cells may be too far gone…

  7. head over eels says:

    Thank you for writing this, it just made me smile too.

  8. download says:

    Keep going.Do not entertain fear.

  9. You did it! …How did you do it?

  10. qiri2000 says:

    a forceful style, It’s great.

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